Amazon.com Product Description

The Fuji MX-600 Zoom combines digital technology and the features you would expect from a well-equipped conventional 35mm camera. Its Fujinon 3x lens is equivalent to a 35 to 100mm zoom. In addition, this camera features manual and autoexposure, flash, and white balance, as well as a program for aperture priority. The Fuji MX-600 Zoom offers video output, single frame, 4x zoom, and auto and multiframe playback modes. It has both an optical viewfinder and 1.8-inch D-TFD color display.

The MX-600 Zoom comes with a removable SmartMedia card with 4 MB storage, a rechargeable lithium battery, an AC adapter, serial cables, and all the software you need to get started on either the Macintosh or Windows platform. ... Read more

Features

• 1,280 x 1,024 maximum resolution
• 3x optical zoom Fujinon lens
• 24-bit color depth
• 1.8-inch color LCD monitor
• Includes removable SmartMedia 4 MB memory card

Reviews (3)

You'll enjoy this camera
This is a really good camera. The image quality is excellent: when this camera is set to "Normal" you get the same picture quality as many other camera's "High Quality" setting. You can choose between three quality levels (Basic, Normal, Fine) and two resolutions (640x480 or 1280x1024).

Using the video-output port with the included cable, you can view images or even do a slide show on any television that has a regular input (RCA composite video). Just think, no more slide trays!

The camera comes with a serial cable and software for both Windows and Macintosh, but as for every SmartMedia camera I HIGHLY recommend using an external card reader, which is much faster than any PCMCIA or Floppy adapter. I use a Feiya USB reader/writer and it works seamlessly. The other item I recommend is a 32MB (or at least 16MB) SmartMedia card. The 4MB card that the unit comes with is not practical. At normal quality/high resolution, a 32MB card will store about 100 images. Using a SmartMedia card reader, it is not necessary to install the software that comes with this camera... you can open the JPEG images directly into any application.

Another great thing about the camera is the internal lithium rechargeable battery. A single charge of this battery can last for 100 shots when you use the 1.7" LCD to frame your pictures, or over 500 shots if you use the traditional viewfinder. This battery will save you $$$ compared to other cameras that just eat up Alkaline batteries and pollute the earth.

I have only two issues with this camera, both of which some people might not care about...

1. After you take a picture, it takes 5 seconds to write the image onto the card before you can take another picture. 2. Occasionally, indoors, when you press the shutter release it doesn't take a picture just when you want it to, you might have to let go, move the camera, and then press the button again because the camera doesn't like the exposure/lighting conditions (unless you're using the manual exposure mode, where you can set your own white balance, exposure levels, flash brightness, and aperture depth).

Other features are 3x optical zoom (equivalent to 105mm), additional 2x digital zoom, filter functions (soft focus and 4 cross filters) and an external flash sync. Although this camera costs more than your average digital camera, you get what you pay for... in terms of image quality, features, and ease of use.

The Next Era In Digital Photography
It wasn't that long ago that you could expect to pay £600 plus for a "cutting edge" digital camera with a gob-smacking 350,000 pixel ccd and images that looked like they'd been taken through the bottom of a jam jar, and as a qualified photographer I backed away from the digital scene to concentrate on 35mm and medium format. Well, I've spent the last year or so trying several cheap to midrange cameras, and Fujifilm seem to have got things pretty much spot on with this one. The control over image compression and the various file size options, coupled with a very accomplished 1.5 million pixel (mega-pixel) ccd mean this camera is able to to produce some incredibly detailed shots. Colours are excellent with no obvious weaknesses on any particular shade, and the exposure seems accurate on just about every shot taken. Neutral colours stay neutral(e.g. skintones) and primaries are vivid, giving a lovely sense of sharpness and contrast. Even up close, the flash performs well, with output metered through a front facing sensor, any tendancies to burn out are very well controlled. Also, the 1.8" LCD screen is clean and sharp, and when the light levels make it unuseable, there's always the optical viewfinder to fall back on. Battery life is very respectable for a camera of this type, and the option to use a mains adapter is always there for shots near a power supply. The smart card is a bit of a letdown at only 4 meg, but at this price something has to give, and I'd rather it was the smartcard size than cutting corners on features or build quality. transfer speeds to the PC are a little slow, but considering the file sizes this is hardly surprising, and it's still a damned sight quicker than sending a film to the lab. I honestly think that with its features, performance and price, this is the start of an era where digital cameras begin to threaten traditional photographic techniques for supremacy, and though they're not there yet, this is a huge step in the right direction. If you want to publish your pictures in a magazine or produce a professional calendar, then buy a Leica, but if you want top notch digital images that rival most cheap to midrange 35mm cameras at a sensible price, then put in your order now while you're here.

I love it, despite quirks and very slow transfer rate
I bought this camera for Turkey day and have used it a lot over both holidays. I made some user errors at first but now I'm getting great shots consistently. I was a bit disabused to find it cheaper but that's life. Amazon has other advantages such as delivering it to my door the next day even though I only requested standard shipping.

The quality of the images is very good and dramatically superior to regular film cameras in many ways. For example, items in the background don't get overpowered by the flash and foreground items. In an interior shot with flash, you can still see things out the window and in the street, very clearly. Reviewing the images on a computer, you find clear stuff in the background that you didn't even know was there, such as cute expressions on the dog's face, etc.

Once you get the images on your PC, the quality is impressive even with the default jpg compression. Compared to scanned photos, they look at least twice as good, even if you zoom in considerably.

I've only used automatic exposure mode so far, and still gotten great shots. Only about 3 have been blurry. My brother tried the manual mode and liked it too.

Don't bother buying it without a spare flash card, because its included flash card only holds about 10 shots (it's 4Mb). I use a 32Mb card now and seem to have plenty of space on it so far.

Transfer rate to a PC via included cables and software is painfully slow, and it virtually locks up your PC no matter how fast its cpu is. It takes nearly an hour to transfer the whole 32Mb flash card over. During that time you can't even read email. I'm actually here right now on Amazon's pages shopping for a faster way to transfer, such as a flash card reader that uses the floppy drive or USB port. Parallel and serial ports terribly effective. Eyes are often still red. Also, there's a long time between the pre-flash and the final flash. My 9-month son blinks after its first flash, so his eyes are often partially closed during the final flash and exposure.

2. It's too easy to confuse the autofocus feature with taking a shot. If you press lightly, it makes a sound as if it were taking a shot, but it's just autofocusing. I have to remind myself to push again on the shutter, or lose the shot because in fact it's not even taken yet. This is at least partially a user error.

3. The flash recovery time is slow.

4. There's no way to tell how low your battery is until it's almost dead. As a result I tend to charge it whenever I can during family events so it'll be ready for fun. Fuji should include a battery meter in the display.

5. The manual is not very clear on image formats and their respective advantages. There are 3 levels of jpg compression available, but when you drag and drop to you PC there's actually only one in-between level (it's between best and standard - go figure...but actually that's what I would choose anyway). Tiff is poorly explained, and there's no help on Windows versus Unix formats, etc. Not everyone knows about that so the manual should help at least a bit.

Overall it's a great camera and I'd buy it again. ... Read more

Amazon.com Product Description

You can take photos in practically any environment and be confident that Fuji's Zoom Date 120 35mm camera will come through. Its zoom lens has a 3.2x magnification to provide you a wide range of shooting options. The multimode autoflash compensates for a wide range of light and also reduces the annoying red-eye phenomenon. You can use the night portrait mode and landscape mode to customize the Fuji Zoom Date 120 to your setting for even better pictures.

The optional date-and-time imprinting function lets you keep track of when your photos were taken. Handling film is convenient with its easy film-loading system and automatic film rewinding. The Fuji Zoom Date 120 also has a handy sequential self-timer to use for all those group photos. ... Read more

Features

• 35mm compact point-and-shoot camera
• 38-120mm 3.2x zoom lens with autofocus
• Multi-mode flash features red-eye reduction
• Automatic film prewinding and advance
• Quartz date imprinting

Amazon.com Product Description

Fuji's Nexia 320ix Z MRC 23-69mm zoom camera has a focal length rangethat will allow you to capture most subjects favorably. Adding to your creativepossibilities is the ability to select your print format: classic 4 by 6 inches,HDTV 4 by 7 inches, or panorama 4 by 10 inches. This camera's active infraredautofocus has 156 steps, and the built-in pop-up multimode flash has off, auto,and fill-in modes as well as red-eye reduction.

Change from black-and-white to color film, or from fast film to slower with thetouch of a button. This camera's midroll change feature allows you to switchyour film and then switch back again without wasting a single shot. The camerameasures 4.4 by 2.4 by 1.7 inches and weighs 6.1 ounces. ... Read more

Features

• Fujinon lens zooms from 23-69mm
• Print format selection of classic, HDTV, and panoramic
• Built-in multimode flash
• Switch between different rolls of film with midroll change
• Date and time quartz imprinting option

Reviews (3)

GREAT Camera, LOW PRICE!
Fuji did it again...offering it's high-caliber photo technology with the use of APS film. I checked out all major brands, and the reason why I chose Fuji was: Price/value. The Zoom can't be beaten. As for the photo quality, it's fantastic. If you're looking for a fairly priced APS camera with all of the great features such as zoom, this is the one to buy.

Just for Snapshots
If I had had the chance to use this camera for a day or two before I bought it, it wouldn't have been "bought". It really is just for snapshots of birthday parties and wading pools. Black and White photos were a disappointment--the color was all off. Enlargements were not sharp and landscapes or distance photos were ill defined. I wouldn't buy it again--which means that I will be buying something else soon, so it was a waste of money.

A fantastic go-anywhere camera
I'd recommend this camera to everyone. It's simple to use and makes a great entry camera for anyone that has been considering getting a new one. However, it still gives good results so even the demanding photographer can be pleased with what comes out. I've got a decent 35mm setup (body and several lenses, etc) but if I don't want to take it with me, this pocket size wonder is what I pick up.

The camera's layout is good, all the functionality you need, and the ease of use of and APS system camera. The zoom (about 35-80 in 35mm terms) has a good range and even the flash seems strong for such a small body.

It'd make a great gift for anyone. ... Read more

Amazon.com Review

Fuji's FinePix 40i is in a category of its own. Though several manufacturers are producing combination digital camera/MP3 players, all of the other cameras are extremely basic entry-level point-and-shoot models. In contrast, the Fuji 40i is a quality camera that would be worthy of praise even if it didn't feature an integrated MP3 player. Instead of thinking of it as a combination digital camera and MP3 player, it's more accurate to call the 40i a supercompact high-resolution digital camera that also happens to play MP3 files.

With the exception of the lens, the 40i is very similar to Fuji's other SuperCCD cameras (the FinePix 4700 and 4900, for example). Images are captured on a 2.4-megapixel SuperCCD sensor, which features octagonal pixels arrayed diagonally instead of traditional square pixels in a grid. Fuji claims that this system offers improved sensitivity and image detail over a standard CCD. To prove this point, the camera interpolates its 2.4-megapixel images up to 4.3 megapixels at the highest-quality setting. Independent tests typically place these interpolated images on a par with pictures from a 3.3-megapixel camera.

Featuring a brushed metal case with integrated sliding lens cap, the camera feels well made and sturdy. Its overall dimensions of 3.4 by 2.8 by 1.1 inches make it one of the smallest digital cameras on the market.

Our biggest disappointment with the camera is its lens. Virtually all digital cameras of this resolution and price feature zoom lenses; to cut back on size, weight, and price, Fuji has included only a nonzoom lens. The camera does feature a digital zoom, but this merely crops pixels from the edges of your photo and enlarges the remaining pixels, something you could do just as easily at home after transferring the images to your computer. If you're accustomed to having a zoom lens, you're likely to miss this feature. Otherwise, the 40i has all of the bells and whistles you'd expect in a quality point-and-shoot camera: multimode flash and white balance, self-timer, exposure compensation, macro, movie mode, and more. Some advanced camera features are missing--there's no shutter priority or aperture priority mode and no manual focus, but these features are often missing from all but the highest-end digital cameras.

As an MP3 player, the 40i is perfectly adequate, with good sound quality. You can't take pictures and listen to MP3 files simultaneously, and the included 16 MB SmartMedia card holds only around 15 minutes of music. If you're serious about using the camera as an MP3 player, you'll definitely want to invest in a larger memory card. A pair of AA batteries should power the player for nearly three hours.

To keep the record companies happy, Fuji has included a number of features designed to discourage users from sharing their memory cards. To transfer music to the camera, you'll need to use the included software, included USB cable, and the newer "ID" variety of SmartMedia card (look for an "ID" printed next to the card's capacity). Non-ID cards won't work for music, and you can't play cards recorded on another 40i, a Rio, or a card reader/writer. Like many personal audio products, the Fuji includes a wired remote that lets you control most music functions even when the camera is in a pocket, backpack, or briefcase. As a bonus, the remote also works with the camera, operating both the digital zoom and the shutter release.

If you're a gadget lover who always needs to have the coolest gizmos, the Fuji FinePix 40i is a great choice. Its combination of supercompact, high-quality digital camera and MP3 player is hard to beat.

Pros:

• Superbly detailed images from an ultracompact camera
• Durable, brushed-metal case with integrated lens cap
• Wired remote controls both MP3 and camera functions
• High-capacity batteries and charger included

Cons:

• No zoom lens
• Copy protection scheme adds complexity to MP3 download process
• Included 16 MB memory card too small for serious MP3 use

Reviews (24)

The coolest camera I've ever used.
The 40i is a truly amazing little camera. Not only does it play MP3's and take great hi-res pictures, but it also takes digital video with sound, which you can review instantly on the LCD screen on the back of the camera. The 40i is easy to use, the smart card media cards hold tons of pictures and the whole thing easily fits in my pocket! (It's about the size of a wallet). I have used the 40i to send pictures and videos of my baby to my family in Texas and Atlanta and they are always amazed by the quality. If you are considering getting this or the Canon Elph, get the Fuji 40i. It's just as small (actually, it feels smaller), but it does a whole lot more.

Great camera but what about the "avi's"?
I've had my 40i for just over 3 months and I'm very happy with it's performance. The major advantages for me have been it's size, picture quality and, of course, the very handy digital video recording functions. I would definately recommend it to friends because, in my opinion, it's the best all round performer. OK, with that out of the way, I have one major problem with the video function: Having used the camera on a regular basis, I've found myself recording more and more videos. I now have 2 64meg cards to support my habit. The videos are saved as .avi files which I thought would be ideal to send to friends to view the videos. Unfortunately, if the video is double clicked on a standard Windows PC it does not act as a standard .avi file and it cannot be viewed ie it can only be viewed either from within the Exif Viewer software (supplied with the camera) or by opening Quicktime then opening the file itelf. I'm happy to be proved wrong on this. I've tried renaming the file to .mov so that it can be recognised by Quicktime and I've also tried changing the file associations in Explorer so that the file is viewed by the standard .avi viewing software. When the file is double-clicked in Explorer a connection to the net is made to attempt to download the appropriate decompressor (which, of course, fails). My suggestion is simple - if the file generated is indeed given a .avi extension, can it be viewed as any other .avi please? I'm sure that there's a very good reason why this occurs but try explaining it to the average Joe who tries to view the video without Exif Viewer or Quicktime.

missing batterys
were not included in package received as specified on web site ?

Nice, but probably not worth the money.
An excellent camera with a few major faults:
The obvious one - theres no optical zoom. If you look through the viewfinder, and your subject is only taking up a tiny fraction of the display, YOU're the one that's going to have to physically move yourself closer to the subject. The camera cannot do the zooming-in for you.
And secondly, the shutter speed is far too slow. Trust me, you cannot take photos of, say, people dancing. All you'll get is a blur.
Oh, and why Fuji neglected to include the AC Adapter as part of the package is beyond me. Supplying two rechargeable batteries, which take about 13 hours to charge simply isn't on...

That aside, it is a good little camera. TV-Out is more of a gimmic than something you'll use regularly, as the pictures look very fuzzy, even on a decent TV. And it's very very easy to use, and produces very good photos.

But personally, I'd think twice about going for this camera over, say, the Canon Ixus V.

Great Simple Camera
This is really a simple straight forward tiny digital camera. If you want a huge number of features and a lot of settings this isn't a camera for you.
On the other hand if you want a camera you can take anywhere and tuck in your pocket, you'll never miss a shot with this tiny camera.
It's menus are easy to use, but note that the screen on the back is a bit tiny. No hunting for the flash feature as on many other cameras. It's right on the top so you can flip between Off, Auto FillFlash and Red Eye Reduction.
Great snapshot camera for the pro or as a primary camera for the family photographer who doesn't want to lug around a larger camera. ... Read more

Features

• Focus on subjects near or far with the 38-90mm zoom lens
• Built-in flash with red-eye reduction
• Drop-in film loading, automatic film prewinding
• Large, bright viewfinder
• Quartz date and time imprinting option

Reviews (6)

Defective Zoom Gears
Camera is easy to load and takes good pictures at first. However the gears that open the lens cover and zoom in and out go bad after after 2 to 5 years and the camera can no longer be used. Each of my daughters had this camera and they both went bad. Fuji will not repair this defect and it costs about $150 to fix. Avoid this camera.

The DL290 By Fuji
I'm really sorry that the above people had these problems, but these may be just one or two bad apples out of a good crop. And good is certainly a word I'd use to describe the DL290. Straight out of the box you can feel the high quality of the product, unlike some of the cheap and nasty feeling products from other companies. The camera itself is SO easy to use, drop in loading, point and shoot, etc, and has some very advanced features built in too. The picture quality may be sometimes blurred SLIGHTLY, but if you have a steady hand, the outcome is sharp with radiant colours. It has a self timer, and a remote control option for taking pictures too, whilst the range of the Zoom is one of the best for this price catogory. Unfortunatly I lost mine in a party, but Im making my insurance company get me the exact same camera, even though I can get a more expensive camera by another company. My last one served me very well, and its stunning quality mixed with easy of use has convinced me to get another just like it. For the price, you really cannot go wrong.

Great camera
I have this camera and have been using it for almost a yr. It takes great pictures. I've taken pictures of my kids at the amusement parks going around on a ride and it got a clear picture of a moving subject. It even does pretty good for night pictures too which I was amazed with. Overall it's a great camera. I like the easy loading of this cmaera too.

It was passable while it lasted
Before it died, this was an acceptible camera. Unfortunately the automatic lens features fell apart and Fuji refuses to fix it without a store receipt AND the warranty card. It's unreasonable to refuse to fix obvious manufacturing defects.

In particular, the automatic lens cover doors no longer function, and the lens will not zoom. Since the lens cover won't open, the camera's as good as dead.

I'm thoroughly unhappy with Fuji's customer service, and this camera is to be avoided.

Discover Fuji Discovery
I found this Camera very easy to use.I could put it in my pocket and go.Outdoors it is hard to beat.Indoors the flash does not throw very far.It's great for closeups, like friends at a table.But far shots indoors are not it's forte.It produces beautiful clear photos. Good value for the money. ... Read more

Amazon.com Product Description

Take photos in practically any environment and be confident that Fuji's Zoom Date 60-35mm camera will come through. Its zoom lens has a 1.7x magnification to provide a wide range of shooting options. The multimode autoflash compensates for a wide range of light and also reduces the annoying red-eye phenomenon. The Fuji Zoom Date 60 also gives you manual control of the flash to give you more precise control over your photos.

The Fuji Zoom Date 60 has an LCD panel that displays handy information about the current operating modes. The optional date-and-time imprinting function lets you keep track of when your photos were taken. The camera also automatically shuts off when you accidentally leave it on for too long to save battery power. ... Read more

Features

• 35mm compact point-and-shoot camera
• 35-60mm 1.7x zoom lens with autofocus
• Multi-mode flash features red-eye reduction
• Automatic film advance and rewind with easy film loading
• Quartz date imprinting

Features

• Flash Off Mode
• Fujinon 35-60mm, f/6.3-10.8 (1.7x) Zoom Lens
• Easy Film Loading
• Multi-Mode Auto Flash with Red-Eye Reduction
• Full-In Flash Mode

Amazon.com Product Description

As a member of Fuji's Nexia line for the 24mm Advanced Photo System,Fuji's Nexia 220ix zoom camera offers three different print formats. This allowsyou to choose the format of the print to suit the dimensions of your subject:classic 4 by 6 inches, HDTV 4 by 7 inches, or panoramic 4 by 10 inches. Addingto your creative options, the Fujinon lens zooms from 22.5mm to 45mm and canfocus on a subject as close as three feet. It is also equipped with a built-inflash, which has three modes, and red-eye reduction. This camera weighs just 6ounces and measures 4.7 by 2.7 by 1.4 inches. ... Read more

Features

• Fujinon lens zooms from 22.5 to 45mm
• Print format selection of classic, HDTV, and panoramic
• Easy-to-read LCD
• Built-in flash with 3 modes
• Date and time stamp option

Reviews (3)

Worked great for a while
I bought this camera a couple of years ago and it worked great and took great pictures until recently. First, it started to delay when taking pictures. I had to wait longer and longer, it seemed, each time I tried to take another picture. Then, I was rewinding the film that contained pictures of our son's first Christmas and the film got stuck in the camera. There is no forcing the film compartment door open and I stripped the gears on the door opener when I tried to pry it open. I ended taking it to a professional photo repair shop and spent $15 to have the camera taken apart around the film to save the pictures. I had to buy a new camera because this one is now worthless.

How???
We just got this camera, but no instruction booklet available. We need help!

Ben's mom likes it
i just got this camera and have not really been able to use it much, hence only the 3 rating. it could very well be a 5 but the only time i got to use it was in the dark.

its easy to use, and the timer function is great for those priceless money shots.

The red eye reduction works great, and the close ups "come" out nicely too, but most importantly Ben's mom likes it a lot. ... Read more

Features

• Its adjustable neck cord makes it positively portable
• A high quality Fujinon lens gives you consistently superb image quality
• Drop in film loading with Auto Advance and Rewind, Mid-Roll Rewind
• Built-in flash with red eye reduction, so you can take great pictures indoor and out
• Fujinon Lens -22mm, f/8; 2 components, 2 elements

Reviews (1)

I love this guy
This camera takes great and clear pictures. my photographs look crisp and professinal. it is compact buy powerful. while in japan i was able to get some brown and white film and the pictures shocked and amazed me they were so breath taking. just wow!...one thing though...there is no zoom. :( ... Read more

Features

• Fujinon 2.4x zoom lens; 38 ~ 90mm, f/7.0 ~ 11.5
• Real image type zoom viewfinder
• Active infrared auto focusing system; 2.95 feet to Infinity
• Programmed electronic shutter
• Automatic exposure control

Features

• Automatic focus, point and shoot camera
• Uses 35mm film
• Red-eye reduction, self-timer
• 38mm-105mm zoom range

Amazon.com Product Description

Fuji's Nexia 20 Auto 24mm camera is a point-and-shoot camera with adifference. As part of Fuji's Nexia line of cameras for the 24mm Advanced PhotoSystem, this camera offers print format selection. The Fujinon focus-free lenscan capture images as close as 3.3 feet, and the flash ranges from 3.3 to 8.2feet. The built-in flash features red-eye reduction and a fill-in mode.Measuring just 4.62 by 2.37 by 1.56 inches and weighing 4.8 ounces, the Nexia 20is small enough to carry almost anywhere and is equipped to capture the worldaround you. ... Read more

Features

• Entry-level camera with Fujifilm's 24mm Advanced Photo System
• Focus-free lens
• Built-in automated flash with red-eye reduction
• Bright, oversized real-image viewfinder
• Motorized film advance and rewind

Reviews (2)

Not Worth It
Snapshot cameras operate on such a simple principle that I didn't think it was possible to take such out-of-focus images. Well now it is, thanks to the Nexia 20.

I've owned and used many different 35mm cameras in the past, and I was able to produce some kind of workable image with every one of them, even the wind-up snapshot camera I have. This one I gave a try to get a feel for what APS can do.

I took pictures from 3 feet away, 10 feet away, and at great distance. I took them in daylight, and I took them with a flash. I took them in a box, and I took them with a fox, but nothing I could do would make a single picture I took with this camera appear in focus.

The view lens doesn't line up either, so if you think you're taking a picture of your friends, you're actually taking a picture of your friends from the neck down.

The problem with making a discount APS camera is you can't take away features to make it more affordable (it requires automatic film advance/rewind and print format selection) so all you can do is make everything cheaper. Which they most certainly did.

My advice is to go with a 35mm camera in this price range, or to buy a more expensive camera if you must have APS.

In short, this should be sold as a paper-weight or maybe as a Rubik's cube-type toy (try opening the loaded film compartment without a chisel), but this thing is no camera.

good price
This small camera is terrific for that trip that you are going!, Is very light, and image quality is very nice. ... Read more

Features

• 128MB of storage space
• Can hold any kind of data - MP3 files, pictures, video, etc.
• PC & Macintosh Compatible
• Requires - (mac) OS 8.6 or above / (pc) Windows 98 SE / Me / 2000 / XP